Why we can't be living in a computer simulated world (think: The Matrix)  

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shywolf
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https://futurism.com/sorry-elon-physicists-say-we-definitely-arent-living-in-a-computer-simulation/

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Posted : October 6, 2017 2:33 am
ifyouplease
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no I don't think we live in a computer simulation, this can be done however in the not so distant future

 

according to my calculations we are 250 years or so prior to the Matrix. 

that's one of my favorite topics and I am NOT a fan of Elon. AT ALL.

 

 

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Posted : October 6, 2017 4:06 pm
ifyouplease
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okay, read the article- i am not sure if i had read it a simulated year ago or not - so i cannot say 'again'

according to them

To store information about a couple hundred electrons, they noted, one needs a computer memory that requires more atoms than what’s available in the universe. “However, one cannot exclude the possibility that some inherent physical property creates an obstruction to efficient classical simulations of many-body quantum systems,”

 

they seem to forget the refresh rate of reality, the fact that what was and is  even if lost it still has a remnant always the fingerprint of its energy which can be replicated revived restored if there was such a 'divine' computer, it could just be there stored from the beginning or should i say from frame to frame, and recreated or not altered or the same in the next frame of reality which in much less than the blink of an eye (buddhists have calculated it almost precisely) goes blank or should i say void. and that would be the source of it's energy, all it needs is a gap between frames in which there is no time at all. it is time that consumes all this energy the time the computer is used it is a turn on turn off procedure and all the prethinking is done while the bloody thing is turned off. that's why these beings or being that created perhaps such a 'divine' computer is always ahead of us and we are following its script! without time energy is back to its source, timelessness. 

safest economy of power it never ceases to 'exist' 

 

it is possible. it is not impossible. but Elon and the other guy they mention have not figured out half of the things the researchers bothered to examine.

sloppy theories get on my nerves.

 

http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/sethna/Sloppy/

 

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Posted : November 30, 2018 12:46 am
ifyouplease
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another thing that intrigues me to distraction  is

 

oops i got distracted now where was I ah right 

okays the notorious God particle

okaysssssssss *gum chewing and smacking noises*

well let me get this straight, they are trying to observe and hold somehow captive this particle a particle that exists in atoms and is indivisible it is let's say the glue that connects everything that happens at any level 

this particle is subatomic it can be anywhere but still can be anywhere else. okay it's everywhere. ha

and let's say it's just one because it is so fast it has scanned the universe or multiverses or whatever and returned to its original thesis (place) doing this:   😜 

now all the things it scanned have what? because it is so fast, faster than anything the things have let's say its past not its current or future PRESENCE and you cannot observe anything without it being present can you ? or do they claim now that even this is possible    😜 

however this can be studied, alright, let's say it can be held captive for i don't know ten minutes? it's simple: everything freezes ffs --- if nothing is faster than it and it is for some odd reason held captive to be studied then this place it happened becomes its original thesis. you the observer would have to travel back in time to study it. hello? that's why cern and colliders are the stupidest and biggest gadgets in recorded - unrecorded  datastory. 

because even if there are many many many MANY to infinity, they simply communicate faster than their fastness and they know what happened to one of them and they all behave the same way! which will bring all the molecules out there in the unpleasant position of not having a normal world around them.. and as we all know we all are composed of molecules they say... oh yes they do.

 

.......... later if anyone is interested if Shy at least is interested i can discuss further how all this can or may be connected with the stupidest gadget in the world.

 

 

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Posted : November 30, 2018 1:32 am
shywolf
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"Trusting human ingenuity as the way to a future that improves the human condition will take us much further than second-guessing ourselves with sensationalist metaphysics."

The thesis of that article is simply this:  the universe is too complex to be simulated because there isn't enough 'resources' in the entire universe to record every bit (including qbits) of information needed to track every particle and its interactions with other particles.  Anything postulated to exist 'outside' the universe is pure metaphysics.  Scientific theory firmly suggests that nothing 'outside' the universe exists (including space and time).  Quantum theory is predicated on a statistical model of the universe (alas, God does play dice with the world) which precludes the ability to go back in time and have everything unfold exactly as before going forward, which is only possible in a deterministic universe.  We live in an nondeterministic world.  We will never be able to predict the future with absolute certainty or, if it were possible, go back and relive the past exactly as it has already unfolded.  (Btw, that fact is the death sentence of Nietzsche's concept of the eternal recurrence of the same.)

"this particle is subatomic it can be anywhere but still can be anywhere else. okay it's everywhere. ha"  According to Quantum Theory, that's exactly right.  At the subatomic level, a particle can be everywhere at once, until it is observed.  Even then, the more accurate its position is determined, the more inaccurate its momentum becomes, and vice versa, as per Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. 

"because it is so fast, faster than anything..."  According to Einstein, the speed of light is a universal limit.

That the CERN and other colliders are the 'stupidest and biggest gadgets' in the world is a matter of misinformed opinion, imho. 

😜

Instead of trying to undo the biting of the old apple/I bite a new one instead/And with a toothless grin/Become a Dionysian among Christians.

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Posted : December 4, 2018 5:17 am
ifyouplease
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too complex for them, in their opinion

it's like comparing elementary school with university here. of course it seems complex for them. they are in kindergarten shown things or trying to imagine possibilities that are higher than any doctoral research.

 

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Posted : December 5, 2018 4:35 pm
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