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ifyouplease
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we had an immigrant on my site, she was trying to write poetry, and a couple of members asked her if she is Greek and I as horrified. 

it is horrifying for a site owner to watch people picking on immigrants! whether they are liberals or neutral with patriotic tendencies like me. it's the same. you open the doors for everybody people sacrifice their time for your site. you have an obligation to protect them. 

 

 

I plead not ordinary

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Posted : April 9, 2019 9:28 pm
ifyouplease
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post a poem about how marvelous Brexit is in perfect English.

wait for a reaction, face it wisely, peacefully, politely. coldly if you are being attacked, ask for the removal of comments that attack you improperly. will the site not protect your freedom of speech equally? leave. and don't ever look back.

 

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Posted : April 9, 2019 9:46 pm
Alfie_Shoyger
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No, the site will not protect my freedom of speech at all. It is opposed to my freedom of speech.

I have left, and will never go back.

 

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Posted : April 10, 2019 5:59 am
Alfie_Shoyger
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Also, KGB Tales is the kind of site where somebody can post a poem like this...

 

Imagine This Scenario

 

 Imagine this scenario. For centuries, millennia,

your ancestors have ploughed the fields of Britain, milking many a

moocow, pulling many a lever, scrabbling at many a coalface,

been frogmarched off with bayonet, rifle, sword, to stop the whole place

from caving in, as they were told by those who owned the silos,

who fattened up the empires, whipped the natives, shot the rhinos.

 

 Your ancestors were Irish slaves, Welsh miners, English shepherds,

they laid the pipes, they pumped the sewage, dug the roads, were peppered

with German bullets, choked on mustard gas, built ships and lorries,

stoked engines, mixed cement, fought off a million mortal worries,

fought typhoid, cholera, polio, Napoleonic trouble,

kept calm and carried on while Hitler smashed their homes to rubble.

 

 Your father drives a minicab. Your mother feeds machinery.

Twenty-storey tower blocks make up the local scenery.

You’re still a baby when the marriage dies of green-complexioned health,

so no-one teaches you to swim or cycle or protect yourself.

No master shows you how to be a man and grab reality

by the balls. He’s busy watering his popularity.

 

 You grow up in a ghetto where a third of all your neighbours

descend from those who lent this land millennia of labours,

and in those dreamy years after the darts of death had withered,

before the towers crumble and the planet starts to shiver,

your streets become infected by a viral form of preacher

proclaiming that their foreign dogma is your country’s future.

For thirty years, while Islamists grow smug on housing benefit,

no-one notices that your attention has a deficit.

 

 The rest of your community’s a round hole to your square peg

and all your creativity just lies there like a spare leg,

you’re not turned on by television, drum and bass or football.

Nobody is going to let you set foot in a good school,

so there you sit with imbeciles concocting plans to hurt you

and parrot lines of French ’cause there’s no other choice but Urdu,

where using proper English means you think you’re some flamboyant king

and means that you’re a poof, a queer, a raasclaat batty-boy and ting,

a pushti pezevenk, a shishna-sucking gora gandu.

Que devez-vous faire maintenant? There’s not much that you can do.

 

 One night, in a graffiti-smothered pit of social atrophy,

a pack of boys with fewer brain cells than a pickled anchovy

pursue you down the high road swinging poles and pipes and batons.

Their gleaming metal cracks your head. Their rubber sportswear flattens

your face. They swipe your empty wallet and your tatty mobile.

Here launches your revolt against the virtue of the docile,

as further down the road you run, just focused on surviving,

bleeding on the windscreens of grown men who keep on driving.

 

 Your bookish tendencies propel you into university

where pyramids of dark politically-correct perversity

entomb Kureishi, Wordsworth, Austen, Ishiguro, Chaucer,

where almost everyone’s a Cultural-Marxist law enforcer

from some pristine Landrover-clogged boulangerie-crammed village

who’s once in a banker’s donation set eyes on an Asian or African visage.

They’re worldly wise authorities on racism, apparently.

Half their conversations are parades of moral vanity.

For three long years you’re yawning at some puffed-up bumfluffed ponce who

says all humanity can live in Ipswich if it wants to.

 

 This doctrine-camp’s a struggle with your deficit disorder but

you scrape a cape, some motto-blotted paper and a mortar-board that

doesn’t fit, then wander in a zigzag back to London where

comparing Laurence Sterne and Salman Rushdie’s a redundant flair.

You stare into a void with no idea of how to find a

career, and tuned to glory, all you want to do is bind the

severely-wounded, limping, out-of-action art of poetry

to the powerhouse of electronic music, though it be

as likely that a record-label oligarch would favour

some bitter anti-globalist class-conscious rant-and-raver

who shouts in Sapphic odes, ballades, rondels and Russian sonnets

above a Mockney berk recalling how his best mate vomits

on thirteen pints of piss or a Jafaican bint who prattles

in sanitised opinions just like all the “edgy” cattle

as a publisher would dare to shake a ten-foot bargepole

at verse that’s not the cryptic nothings of a tedious arsehole,

and so you stumble by and buy biographies of Byron by

nibbling on a nabob’s nob, by tightening a tyrant’s tie.

Your top job’s in a workshop, as you see the dreams of youth crushed,

scrubbing mud off scraps of Roman porcelain with a toothbrush.

 

 And there you sit, between two classes, cultures, worlds. You fidget

towards them both. The gap is gaping, though. You cannot bridge it.

 

 The tax you pay flings rockets at Iraqi haberdasheries,

it pulverises coffee-shops in screaming, blood-strewn batteries.

You didn’t give consent for this. Your country’s just a colony.

Was there a referendum? No, there isn’t a democracy.

No socialism, nationalism, nothing to believe in.

The working people’s tongues are ripped out by conniving, thieving,

identical imperial-globalist PC puppet parties.

You’d like to race against this, but you don’t know where the start is.

Not once do you vote Labour. You could never vote Conservative.

All traitors, crooks and paedophiles. You switch off and no further give

a flying badger’s tit about what happens in the Commons

as London empties Cockneys and fills up with bearded omens.

The seeds of World War Three are blowing nicely on the zephyr.

Here come the Islamists. Your country’s fucked. Perhaps forever.

 

 Warum dann musste Opa seinen rücken beinahe brechen?

Wir können ruhig Wagner hörn und Deutsch stattdessen sprechen.

 

 You might as well speak German (or Mongolian for that matter)

into that microphone, up on that stage, in front of the lager-soaked chatter

of a dozen hipsters dressed like thick-bespectacled babies,

staring into screens and tuning up their ukuleles.

 

 As the lonely years plod by, your heart is full of longing.

It grows obese on hunger, on the emptiness that’s thronging

through your threadbare lovelife. Every person that you speak to

might as well be Mister Spock, or maybe R2-D2,

but still you’re cracking at the seams to meet someone who’ll nourish

your cobweb-cornered heart into an upward-thrusting flourish.

Each word that springs from female lips is just a dreary racket,

“blah blah promotion blah blah pay rise blah blah income bracket”

or else a nauseating buzz, “blah blah blah immigration

blah blah blah xenophobic racists blah blah celebration

of vibrant blah blah blah” vibrating like a verbal dildo

up her holy minge. Traditional ways are long-since killed, so

you can’t walk up and ask a girl if somewhere underneath her

six coats of bullshit or above her talkative urethra

there throbs a soul, since, ordered by society’s shining recipes

for hurtling, faster than a coked-up lemming, off a precipice,

approaching girls is sleazy and invasive. It’s harassment.

And so your life is starved of warmth, of wonder, of attachment.

 

 You’ve no idea what women want. You ask, but they won’t tell you.

You plead with them to speak the truth, but all you get’s a deluge

of “blah blah bollocks blah blah blah, oh, I just want a nice guy

who’ll shower me with aubergines beneath the moonlit night sky.”

This world of preening fakes and horsecrap-merchants fails to captivate,

it interests you less and less as every year evaporates.

 

 But then a teenage working-class redheaded wordsmith bursts in

and says that she’s in love with you. You’re suddenly immersed in

a five-foot-ten half-Scottish old-school-socialist rhyme-scribbler.

You’re shaken from your skull-tip to your ribcage to your fibula.

You’d fight a flock of Millwall fans armed only with a spatula,

set fire to Margaret Thatcher with a single soggy match for her,

you’d scale Ben Nevis with sixteen typewriters on your back for her,

prance round the roughest pub in Dublin in a Union Jack for her,

you’d crawl across the Gobi Desert on your hands and knees for her,

you’d stick your hairy bollocks in a hive of killer bees for her,

you’d share your bed for six months with, instead of her, a porcupine.

But what she won’t explain to you is:                        she’s a Borderline.

 

 The girl’s a raging, lava-breathing maze of dizzy delusion.

For forty months she coughed up lithium in an institution.

A pale-hued Loch Ness harpy whose emotional pollution

surfaces in gushes, fanning ripples of confusion.

Petty quarrel number one. She issues threats of violence

and then declares a lifelong policy of howling silence.

Your every quest to reconcile rebounds against her retinue,

she sends her gangly father and the boys in blue to threaten you,

she tells her friends and colleagues to ignore your every email,

that she is just an innocent, harassed and fragile female.

She wouldn’t lay a nectarine on a chopping-board to save your life,

she wouldn’t dye her hair or play a harpsichord to save your life

or pull a sink-plug out or open up her eyes to save your life,

admit that she did wrong or just apologise to save your life,

but still you’d pull a million pints or pallets, or scrub rotten mud

off an entire amphitheatre with a broken cotton bud

so she could sit and spend each afternoon unclogging the messiest

brainbox in North London with a world-class psychotherapist.

People tell you, “Just get over it! Move on! Forget her!

There’s plenty more fish in the frying pan of spilt milk etcetera etcetera!”

Except there’s not, since all around are moralists making a dire noise,

who bore you deeper than a bishop bores a bunch of choirboys.

Everywhere you look there struts a virtue-signalling tosser who’ll

snap their throat to prove their opinions are the correctest ones possible,

though every person that you meet has only two opinions:

“I’m not racist” and “I am a beacon of ethical brilliance”.

Some try to convince you that threats of domestic violence made by women

should never be taken seriously, no matter how big or how brimming

with psychotic rage a girl is, while threats of retaliation

made in self-defence by men are a vile abomination

(so it’s your fault the relationship ended, you’re the one who destroyed it

and you should apologise to her and flush your pride down the toilet).

 

 You hear the gang of judges sizzling in their vapid power.

Without a map, your bumpy way gets bumpier by the hour.

The mob are weaving forth, they’re loading all their shrieking howitzers,

they sermonise and slander you into a den of counsellors,

they catapult their boulders of debilitating dogma

and batter down your barricade. You gallop to a doctor.

Who else is there? Your father’s shuffled through this sieve of fishiness.

Was he a father ever? Or just half a sexual synthesis?

You charge and jerk upstream to reach dejection’s chilly origin.

You lurch upstage. No width, no depth, no space to jam a sausage in.

Here swoops a fixed absorption, a tsunami of perceptual change

that chops your judgement into shreds and chokes your intellectual range.

You mumble, “My frenemies’ venomous moaning might be a quite normal phenomenon.

What if they’re really all right and I’m wrong?” The delirious drivel rolls on and on.

The world is now a yawning yuckfest wobbling with yammering wankpots

whose actions suggest that they cherish the pleasure of yanking your brain into shank knots.

 

 But everyone’s so good, so right, so modern and so clever!

By God, they’re so much cleverer, more modern, righter, better.

So well-informed, clued-up about the world, so mentally nimble.

Race and gender. Yes, that’s what it’s all about. It’s simple.

So liberal, open-minded. Their moralities are premium.

What worthless, low-down pond life one must be to disagree with them,

to disagree that children’s corpses littered round a concert hall

by a creed that kills for sport, that wants its virgins, wants it all,

is just the price we have to pay (and golly, isn’t it worth it?)

to have our wonderful, diverse, free, open, vibrant surfeit

of multicultural loveliness, is worth it so a Western

liberal bourgeoisie that never asks or answers questions

can brag about its virtue at a tofu dinner party

to all its friends in the honky-hating bourgeois wankerati.

 

 Your soul now crushed and sunken from these evermore-diffusing

“I’m better than you” beta-males and gamma-females oozing

from every nook and lecture-hall across the sterile promontory

regurgitating all their shining spoonfed social commentary,

crushed and sunken from society’s “creative people”

possessing the imagination of a blind dung-beetle,

you drift and drift away from this macchiato-stirring virus

and shove a different quintessential dust into your sinus.

 

 You can only face the world through the kaleidoscopic prism

of ketamine, the only thing that beats a constant rhythm,

the only method of forgiving those who cannot fathom

an alienated misfit staring down into a chasm.

Ravers’ smack, horse candy, donkey wonkifier, ketamine,

portal through the universe you couldn’t squeeze an atom in,

escape route from the crudely-painted three-dimensioned backdrop,

God reflected in a mirror on which joy is racked up,

powdered Buddhism, pineal threshold, magic lever,

majestic psychonautic voyage through the throbbing ether,

heaven in a frying pan, subverted pony valium,

white fun, snuff plus, revivifying interstellar galleon,

gurgling cruising goggle-eyed quick cure for kicking hungers,

extra-human gangway, golden key to the humungous,

lines of pleasure, psychic sherbet, nasal exorcism,

centuries-secret treasure, transdimensional incision,

Special K, emotional morphine, sniffable Nirvana,

unicorn food, Zen-dust, paraphysical gymkhana,

repositioner of time and space, the mind, the ego.

Ketamine.                                                            Still just a placebo.

There’s nothing more you want to say or hear. Now you’ve detached yourself.

All you want to do is roll a banknote and dispatch yourself

into a different universe from all of mankind’s trivia,

snorting, snorting, as opinions all around get sniffier.

Those banknotes though, are running out. They cannot reproduce themselves

and bosses, colleagues, customers, they all can go and screw themselves.

 

 Every job that anybody anywhere does ever

is a dreary sack of ostrich mucus. Jobs just slither

from your apathetic grasp like remoulade-smeared lizards.

Money – is this really how a human’s worth is measured?

All you ever wanted was a ticket in the raffle

of Love. Instead you sell your slumbering brain cells in a brothel.

And now you have to stand in line and sign your name and wrestle

with all the devils in the trenches of the antisocial.

So how do you escape this life with such a colour-free hue?

You run into the arms of mystic beatniks up a tree who

throw their arms around the world from Zhangjiagang to Aachen.

Is this how mould will be scraped off, how skies will cease to darken?

You squeeze into a squatted Georgian townhouse that’s disfigured

by scaffolding and dreadlocked spray-can-brandishing left-wingers.

Among the filth you drift away into your white-nosed coma.

You’re thirty now, but deep inside, your age is getting lower.

You move into a nursery school, where stars of tissue paper

dangle from the ceiling. The fruits of childish labour.

The ketamine your kite-high haircut-skipping new friends peddle

flows like the ketchup on your cod and chips. You boil a kettle

and fill a plastic bin with shower gel to stay hygienic.

And like some sort of Allen key and flashlight-wielding relic

of when mankind stalked woolly mammoths through the prehistoric

bogs of Doggerland, you creep through Bristol’s dark, prosaic

supermarket car parks, cracking dustbins open, searching

for pasta, trifle, sandwiches and maybe some tinned sturgeon

to feed yourself. At this point a cluster of middle-class Feminists floats up

and tells you that you’re “privileged”.

 

 

                                                                         A flock of sluts that soaks up

the Tuscan sunshine. Lazy whores with faces sour as grapefruit

who think they’re on the brink of some great intellectual breakthrough,

whose daddies paid their student fees and finance their addictions

to leather bags and high-heeled shoes of myriad descriptions,

whose lovers shower them with all they see in glistening adverts,

who sit and quaff champagne until the seventh or the eighth hurts

their coiffured heads, inform you that – unlike them – you are “privileged”

because you have a penis.

 

 

                                                   Even though this life is double-edged

and in our brave postmodern world, all ideological spew aside,

more homelessness, more pressure to succeed in life, more suicide,

more workplace death, worse prison sentences, less child custody,

these are the male “privileges”. From Mercia to Muscovy

discrimination is against the law, and yet (how funny) 

companies hire men to do the same job for more money!

 

 But even though the rights of both the genders are identical,

you can’t escape the Feminist behemoth’s clammy tentacles

demanding men apologise and beg and fawn and snivel

and hack their shrunken testicles off with a rusty chisel.

You can’t say ‘bitch’ or ‘cunt’ or ‘whore’. No, that’s misogynistic,

insist these bitches, cunts and whores. But, oh – in case you missed it,

it’s still alright for women to say ‘tosser’, ‘prick’ and ‘wanker’,

it’s still acceptable for girls to snap and swipe in anger

and laugh at a man’s penis with a crooked little finger,

but men must show respect for women’s looks. These gifted thinkers

inform you that all masculine behaviour is now “toxic”,

so close your legs! Sit down to piss! Adhere to shrewish logic!

Just shut your mouth! Don’t be a man! Be much more like a female!

That’s what they order you to do. But here’s an unsaid detail,

a caveat in the small print: women still possess the freedom

to suck the cocks of men who do not care about or need them,

of rippling-muscled chauvinists who’ll trap their hearts in sick pain,

as women can have sex with who they want, you sexist dick-brain.

 

 Another detail: none of this applies to brown or black men.

All misogynists are white. Your ancestry goes back ten

or more millennia in Europe, homeland of the white race.

The fact that other people with a vaguely similar-typed face

to yours possess more power in society than those who’ve

been landing here for sixty years in fluctuating flows proves

you’re privileged, and you should be deprived of your nationality,

ashamed of who and what you are, with all of its depravity!

For all white males are privileged oppressors, shriek the Feminists.

Your Celtic heart, which through the years has passionately reminisced

about King Arthur (Caradog and Boudicca both crammed in too),

your Celtic blood, passed down from those who fled potato famines, who

had begged and starved in Irish fields, now suitably affronted

by a swamp of hairy-armpitted, intellectually stunted,

self-obsessed, self-righteous, vile, unfuckable middle-class ratbags,

Orwellian screeching brainwashed filth, degenerate privileged fat slags

with fat gobs full of Arab-spunk, how else can you react to this?

What would be your calmly thought-out, reasonable analysis?

 

 Imagine this scenario. That this was your life story.

How d’you think you’d feel about the panting, squirting orgy

of moral masturbation that erupts around you daily?

About these Feminists and all their eunuch friends who gaily

prance across the stage while warbling doctrine from their rectums.

How d’you think you’d feel about these folk? Would you respect them?

Or would you like to slash them into slices with a gimlet

and melt them into one vast bullshit-flavoured Spanish omelette

or lampshades, bars of soap, perhaps a set of scented candles

shaped like huge vaginas? Well, these civilisational vandals

have brought us all here with their brains the size of hedgehogs’ foreskins,

yelling “Sexist scum! Islamophobe!” at Richard Dawkins.

With David Icke it’s “Crackpot!”, Tommy Robinson it’s “Racist!”,

Marine Le Pen it’s “Far right!”, Julian Assange it’s “Rapist!”

because it’s easier to vomit empty words and slogans

and jump on all the government-sponsored, Soros-fed bandwagons

than listen to what someone has to say. Oh yes, it’s easier

to think what you’re supposed to think in blindness and amnesia,

and if you don’t, there must be something wrong with you, you weirdo,

you dribbling racist sexist spastic. Be like Emperor Nero

and watch the game show or the football. Listen to Kate Tempest.

Don’t doubt the doubleplusgood multiculti socjus femfest.

Don’t think about the Mongols, the Mughals, the Arab Slave Trade.

Just keep on screaming “It’s all Europe’s fault mankind’s got waylaid!”

Just keep on cheering on the rape and murder of our continent.

Reward yourself with oral pleasure ’cause you’re so damn tolerant.

Just get down on your privileged white kneecaps and apologise

for all those crimes you didn’t do and lands you didn’t colonise.

Don’t fret about jihadists or society’s destruction

in general. Don’t you worry now, about the introduction

of open borders, gender reassignment for small children

or safe-space culture. In this world we’re cooking in our cauldron,

everything is normal. So don’t challenge the opinions

of Feminists, don’t argue with the government’s droning minions,

those pieces on the chessboard who believe their revolution

is a rebel’s cause, who love the European Commission,

or you’re a bigot like those shitty brainless proletarians,

insist the left-wing intellectual authoritarians,

just shut your mouth and watch TV. Or else.

 

 

                                                                                     This moral leprosy

is the final, trapdoor-opening, downfall-triggering treachery.

Vienna is besieged. See the barbarians and their weaponry.

Imagine this scenario. I think you’d know your enemy.

 

 

 

 

 

...and not one person has a single word to say about it.

 

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Posted : April 11, 2019 7:31 am
ifyouplease
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whenever I start reading this poem, I simply scan after 'who keep on driving' 

the size of the poem is intimidating me, I'd never read it in Greek or any language, I scan such big poems in general. And maybe it's not just me, maybe most people would rather read such a big poem in parts, this poem needs intervals. And, perhaps, a new title. In my humble opinion.

What I have read more than five times now is as talented as most of your work. 

This post was modified 2 weeks ago 2 times by ifyouplease

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Posted : April 12, 2019 9:53 am
Alfie_Shoyger
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The title is important because it returns at the end.

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 12:54 pm
ifyouplease
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my fault for some strange reason I thought the poem was called Some thoughts on feminism!

yeah you've selected a good title then.

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Posted : April 12, 2019 1:28 pm
ifyouplease
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in fact your bold letters up there didn't mean the title of a poem but what you were emphatically saying.

 

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 1:30 pm
ifyouplease
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have you submitted it here too?

I plead not ordinary

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Posted : April 12, 2019 1:32 pm
Alfie_Shoyger
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I haven't submitted it as a poem, no. Not yet. This is because my plan all along has been to only submit poems from my book, "Disoccidented", in the order that they appear in the book, before moving on to poems from the second book, which is currently a work in progress.

The thing I liked about KGB Tales was that it allowed you to sort your pieces into collections. I might just start a blog now instead, although I am intimidated by the technical know-how needed to set one up. I have the technicality of a fish. A dead fish.

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 4:33 pm
ifyouplease
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I can help if you have a gmail I can create a blog for you or wordpress. 

Do you want my help?

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Posted : April 12, 2019 4:41 pm
ifyouplease
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you don't need gmail but it would be a bit confusing for a dead fish, for blogger. you'd have to sign in using your email but i don't know much about it.

wordpress is easier all you need is an email any email.

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 4:43 pm
ifyouplease
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you would definitely need an email that is your "official" email since you are going to publish your work

you can create more than one blog, it's very easy on blogger. each blog can be poems from the first book poems in progress etc. 

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 4:45 pm
ifyouplease
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well it's not difficult, there are tutorials. check this one

 

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Posted : April 12, 2019 4:47 pm
Alfie_Shoyger
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I set up an account on Blogger a few months ago. I didn't have a fucking clue what I was doing or what I needed to do. So I deleted it.

I tried again this morning, with Wordpress. I even bought a domain name. But the same thing happened. It might as well have been written in Vietnamese. So I deleted it. I ordered a refund, and can't afford to try again until that refund arrives.

Right now I'm just feeling deflated. Thwarted by the modern world. It's not something that I can possibly understand.

So I might need your help at some point, yes. Thanks.

 

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