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ukadmin
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That is excellent @jay12 thanks 🙂

I've taken the liberty of creating a page for your pdf, Jay.

How To…

I will also add it as a link at the top.

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Posted : October 18, 2017 4:25 pm
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jay12
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Glad to help. At two pages long its easily referenced as a pdf or printed out as a hard copy. 

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Posted : October 18, 2017 5:00 pm
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Dorandrian
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I think you just answered your own question, Richard. I had meant to drop in to the site a few times recently, but kept forgetting. Your email reminded me. I think an occasional newsletter is a great idea to get lapsed subscribers back on board. Then more people may want to join.

I don't post my own stuff, as I'm trying to write a novel and also learning to promote (meh) the one I've just self-published, but I've always found the forums very interesting. If the topics are useful to writers of every kind, more will want to engage with them.

 

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Posted : October 18, 2017 5:10 pm
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jay12
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I've spelled word, world in the Genre section of my original PDF, attached is a corrected version. 

I have a word document of this I can email over to you if you want a copy for future edits? 

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Posted : October 19, 2017 10:03 am
guajiros
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I don't usually bother with forums because my brief experience of them has shown me they sometimes lead to individuals abusing each other (perhaps on UKA the members are too polite). I haven't used the this forum before, but since you asked for a comment  . . . 

I have tried to get into the UKA and have been a member for sometime, however although everybody seems quite polite most of the time, I find the content is poetry top heavy. I know on pretty much any of these kind of sites the content is poetry high, but on UKA the amount of poetry to prose posts looks to be at least 10-1. I have posted poems here, but I prefer to write and read prose short stories and book chapters. 

Certainly the amount of comments are pretty minimal even for good posts, but that is not unique to UKA. From what I have seen most sites suffer from this, even the ones that issue "points or stars or whatever" for commenting so members can post their own stuff. On those sites often people will only make the minimum number of comments they need to get their stuff posted and often the comments are empty praise so the system tends to be self negating. Also even on sites where commenting is not mandatory some are not very helpful because generally folks don't like to criticise and upset others. 

Having said that, I can't really think of how to improve this phenomena (I have given it a lot of thought in the past, but I gave up)

As some of the people on here have said, they don't want comments, fair enough, but I feel that after spending sometimes days writing a short or tinkering with a poem I would like to know if someone thought it was worth the effort. When there are no comments I can only guess it was not: disappointing, but probably useful info. 

Answering the question where is everybody? That's tough, but it seems a problem that all the free writing sites are suffering from. Some blame social networking and some blame the likes of Amazon who make self-publication so easy. Who knows .... I don't.

I've tried several sites over the past ten years and I can see they are all suffering, even the big American ones which charge money who now seem to be more to do with socialising than writing quality work or learning and practising the craft.

The free ones I have tried? Well, one had very schoolteacher like moderators and everybody got peed off and went elsewhere, needless to say it folded. Another seems to be run by some of its own members in order to try to save it. It kind of works at the moment, but it doesn't always lead to good work or help people improve. I won't go as far to say there is favouritism . . . but one does wonder.

One negative thing I noticed about UKA is the every 3-4 posting days.

I do wonder if posts could be displayed on a daily basis or instantly, there might be more encouragement for members to post more or for new members to get involved (like most other competitor writing sites). I don't know why UKA doesn't do this, I assume pressure of work by the the admin or limitations of the site's mechanism. 

One positive thing I have noticed about UKA is (unless things have changed) members seem to be allowed to be a little more forthright (not super offensive) but at least they can express an honest opinion.

Dunno if this helps or makes sense, but as I said above you did ask.

 

 

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Posted : October 19, 2017 10:26 am
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jay12
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We might all be over thinking this. A regular newsletter might be the answer, lets face it the email sent out about this issue has drawn a lot of attention and seems to have worked. 

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Posted : October 20, 2017 12:25 pm
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ukadmin
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Thanks for the post @guajiros

The twice-weekly publishing days have been discussed often and although I suggested we change to instant publishing like most sites, this idea was not popular so we remain with the current twice a week publishing days.

 

   

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Posted : October 20, 2017 1:34 pm
guajiros
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Thanks for listing me as a new member. I have been a member for about five years I think, although I admit not a particularly active one. I have had a name change of course after the change to the damned writers. I also, in the dim and distant past, seem to remember posting was every two-three days with three postings a week on average as I recall. Looks like I'm swimming against the tide don't it.

You seem to have focussed on one of my points and ignored the rest, particularly about OD-ing on poetry here. However, after taking a gander at the latest "Poem of the week"  (or should that be weak) on ABC tales, I don't think your plethora of poets have lot to worry about.

I don't know the answer to the reduction of everybody, but one thing you have in common with ABC    you seem to be going in ever decreasing circles. 

In the words of that great intellect Donald J Duck .... sorry er Gump is it?  ---- "sad"

(like I am I suppose some of you will suggest)

I told you I don't normally bother with forums ----- I never learn!

 

 

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Posted : October 20, 2017 8:56 pm
franciman
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But who wasn't it popular with? Do you see a great many of them in this discussion thread?

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Posted : October 20, 2017 9:38 pm
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Posted by: franciman

But who wasn't it popular with? Do you see a great many of them in this discussion thread?

Dunno. Maybe we should have a poll?

UKA webmaster

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Posted : October 20, 2017 9:51 pm
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Bubsy
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Hi all,

I had recently joined this site a while ago when it was changed and I could no longer sign in. So I went off to facebook and Writers & Artists for helpful hints, feedback and chit chat. Facebook has various writer 'groups' but members drain away after a while. Perhaps we just like to roam about online when we are procrastinating.

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Posted : October 20, 2017 11:45 pm
popeye
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Since Iv'e returned to UKA I've posted 4 pieces which have received almost 1800 views. There have been only 7 comments. No feedback has lead me to conclude there is no value in posting. Publishing twice weekly leads to some people only going on site on the publishing days, this may be reducing the interaction between members. I also find the site can be quite slow at times.

Instant posts have generated much more feedback for my work, which I now publish on All Poetry. 

Davy Eager

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Posted : October 21, 2017 10:40 am
ionicus
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I am a grumpy old man renowned for plain speaking. I have two things I want to get off my chest.
The first is about some prose writers who complain about the ‘plethora’ of poets on this site and an unbalance between poetry (too much) and prose (too little).
My advice would be: forget about the poets – they seem to be leaving in droves, anyway – and knuckle down to write more prose. Simple, innit?
My second niggle is about what appears to be a tendency to rubbish other writing sites such as ABCtales.
Odious comparisons do nothing to enhance UKA’s reputation but causes hostility in members who contribute to both sites.
I am one of those who post so called ‘weak’ poetry here and there.
As far as I am concerned UKAuthors and ABCtales are two distinct and independent online platforms and both are not immune from good  and bad writers. It is up to the readers to separate the wheat from the chaff.
End of sermon.

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Posted : October 21, 2017 12:46 pm
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ifyouplease
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what is odious is to rubbish an entire site because of  one person who is a gentleman and a very considerate moderator and I doubt he would ever allow any discussion that caused suicidal thoughts because of its nastiness.

 

I plead not ordinary

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Posted : October 21, 2017 2:13 pm
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I've been to other writing sites in the past. Nothing wrong with them, but I feel more comfortable here. I don't think anyone should rubbish another site. Just don't go there if you find it not to your taste.

As for posting days, there was a great deal of work posted on Friday. That's great, but how many comments have been made? The thing is that it's ok to see a certain piece has a lot of reads so that should show it's good but I always think (with my stuff) that it's so terrible no one can find anything to say about it. That puts people off and I've deleted stuff in the past because I think it must be worthless. It just could be that people don't have the time to read through everything.

As  for poetry/prose. yes, there's more poetry on here but I see no problem with that, as long as people are posting here, isn't that the main thing?

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Posted : October 21, 2017 3:41 pm
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