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ionicus
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It looks as if apathy is once again returning.

I have noticed that quite a few submissions, including some of mine, have no comments whatsoever although they have had several hits. (In my case four pieces with 64,63,37 and 31 reads).

I have decided to do a cull and delete those of mine that obviously are not deemed to be up to standard. This will free space to accommodate extra critiques on more popular pieces.

 
Posted : November 11, 2020 11:40 am
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I hear you Luigi. I can only say, if we want to be read, we need to do our best to read as many others as possible. I feel that is only fair. I am not referring to YOU here, only stating what should be fair play. I realise that lately there has been some exceeding the permitted number of posts and can assure you that has been dealt with and also that it was a genuine error. 🤔 

If I remember rightly, we had a long discourse on this in the past on the forum and I was sort of shouted down by even suggesting that if we want to be read, we should be prepared to put ourselves out do the courtesy of being prepared to read others.

I was shot down at that time by those vociferous voices saying it is entirely up to the members who they read, or comment on. 😕 

While totally agreeing that view in principal, I still feel that there ought to be a give and take by manners if nothing else.

If someone reads me? I shall always read them. No real problem there. 

We are fine tuning things as we go along. I confess, there have been times I have felt the same... 

It is not nice and conjures up all sorts of feelings.

It escapes me how people can read and not even leave any sort of comment, even if just to say honestly they did not understand the content. That at least opens the dialogue window for others.

There have been times I have been tempted to delete works due to this but I think that is the road to nobody posting anything. 😕  

I do hope that we can come together as a group and try to read others, not by decree, but more as a gesture of goodwill. I sometimes have the impetus to read and comment and sometimes I don't. I expect others are the same.

I think a vibrant site should be everybody working together to make something lively while understanding there is no pressure whatsoever to read those whose work does not resonate or who never ever returns the favour.

I welcome comments. 🙂  

 

 

 
Posted : November 11, 2020 5:02 pm
ifyouplease
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I don't see any apathy. For now, we're okay I think.

 
Posted : November 11, 2020 5:10 pm
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I am also apologetic that I seldom read prose. It stems from a feeling that as I do not usually write prose, I have little of value to contribute. That is probably wrong. There are some here who specialise in that  but unless and until the numbers increase, I am sure that any comment is better than none. 😉 

I am also aware that some among us have their own problems and so I feel maybe we need to be kind rather than critical which has maybe been my stance in the past. 😔 

It can be hair-raising to expose our selves with our work and knowing this, I ask for understanding all round. {pear}:wink:  

 
Posted : November 11, 2020 5:14 pm
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@stormwolf

the problem as I see is not that pieces are unread but that they are not commented upon despite having been read many times. I am talking about a general trend not just about my submissions. Take for example "An Aristotelian Affair" by The Recluse: read 159 times, 1 comment (and that by the author himself); "The Ghosts of River Valley Farm" by Guaj: read 33 times and 'Picked'; "Tassos" by ifyouplease (34 reads) and so on. 
Personally, I don't mind negative criticism, but if no feedback is forthcoming I assume, rightly or wrongly, that it is not worth keeping it.
Given the number of work published, I am slowly trawling the site and have given a few comments on what I have read so far.
That is all.

 

 
Posted : November 11, 2020 7:09 pm
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Tassos is autobiographical and a repost I didn't expect any comments, it's finished too, there is nothing I can do. been looking at it for a year trying to spot anything that can be phrased better. now I must wait for my Nobel like the rest of web writers.

 

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Posted : November 11, 2020 7:46 pm
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I was about to fall asleep and a comment suddenly came to my mind. I was shocked (one of the many times a thought shocks me like that before sleep) did I really say 'went through a lot' instead of 'been through a lot' on Luigi's Apocalypse.

yeah and I can't explain it really, not even in Greek does it make sense. we don't say go we use another verb which means pass.

I warn bilingual writers and poets. Stop doing it. Or choose a language and do not return to your native tongue ever again if you are so insanely in love with a foreign one.

Really. I want my brain back.

 

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 12:36 am
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@ionicus I do understand Luigi. I don't know if the number reading are all members. If someone just comes to the site and reads, does that get counted? If so, it may mean they have read but were not able to comment? Just a thought.

It sure is demoralising to be read a lot and no comments. When that happens to me I also feel like deleting. Then some brave soul leaves a comment and that can often open it up. I think some may not like being the first to comment in case they have misunderstood the poem.   {blue}:wink:  

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 8:20 am
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@ifyouplease

I am sure that any bilingual writer contributing to this site will heed your advice, Nicoletta. 😐 

Luigi x

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 10:29 am
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@stormwolf

You have raised a good point, Alison. There is a lot about the new setup that I don't understand so I can't give a categoric reply. Does a guest or even a bot reading a piece generate a hit? As you say, if people are not logged on they cannot comment. As I keep saying there ought to be a FAQ that we refer to without having to bother the webmaster every time.
I feel that there should be some response from a reader even if the answer is "sorry I don't understand it" or to say diplomatically that is a lot of tripe, in which case deletion would seem the only course of action.

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 10:47 am
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I don't know about this particular site but the websites I administer would count a hit from any access to that page, regardless if it was a bot or someone not logged in. It's also possible that the pages are not actually being read, but simply accessed. Let's say, for example, that I clicked on a piece of work here, then instantly moved on, that would be counted as a hit.

As to not commenting, I would have to plead guilty to having done that in the past. Asking someone who doesn't understand a piece of work to admit that in a comment isn't easy because you don't know how the writer is going to react to that. 

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 11:21 am
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@stormwolf

It is disheartening when there are no comments. The whole reason for posting is to have a response - I was going to say reaction - from readers on how they have engaged with piece, positive or negative. And reading other people gives me insight into how they architect and build their pieces. Its fascinating how much variety there is on this site, but it seems to be same the set providing comments. The feedback doesn't have to be based on any analytical theory, just straight from the heart.

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 4:45 pm
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Quite so, Bhi. Exactly my sentiments.

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 5:34 pm
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Ahem, something to bear in mind - if feedback/critique isn't acknowledged, the person that sent it isn't going to bother with the writer in future. Just sayin'.

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 5:59 pm
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@stevef

Oh yes, I know. That's why I don't have any work on the site. I gave up on posting it. I still love the place and I comment on the pieces I enjoy. I'm working through the latest ones published at the moment but, due to being sick for the past two week, it's taking time. 

 
Posted : November 12, 2020 8:09 pm
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